Andrew's Previous Response:
And so, to me, this is a truth within a subreality... harm to one is harm to all. Here's a question I have toward that question or "truth". What if I'm the one being harmed? I may be forced to harm to stop the pain I'm in, which you address below. Also, if we really cracked open the word "harm", it would be almost impossible to avoid "harming" others. If I walk on the grass, there may be harm done. If I eat the last bite of food for my own "survival", I may be denying an entire village. Well, that's an extreme example, but it could happen in some sense.
Alex's Second Response:
I agree, it is a sub-reality. But one I am definitely within. :) And I believe it is one that is serving my fullest expression/purpose. Somehow my Bigger Me is using this as a way of making it tangible that I don't have to hold on "for dear life", and to do that it needs to make me aware of others, so that I can let-go of myself that little bit more. And in letting-go of myself, more, find myself more :)
Regarding the second part, yes, I agree it could be very tricky ascertaining the levels of harm done. But taken in a very rough way, clearly if humans consciously avoided harming 90% of what gets harmed at this time in human history, it would be noticed! It isn't so much avoiding harm, but the implications behind it, that we are connected.
This is a counter-thought for me from my Bigger Being: I was previously operating in a very me first way. I still am, but my concept of me is different, now. I assume my Bigger Me is giving me this exploration for my own purposeful unfolding.
Andrew's Current Response:
I agree that we are in a sub-reality. There ARE sub-realities within sub-realities within sub-realities within sub-realities. My, all of me, is wanting to understand these sub-realities and be VERY AWARE of them so that I can deliberately and consciously make meaningful decisions about the ones I WANT to participate within, and free myself from any that I have inadvertently become a slave to.
For example, what I know about how MY body works (not including anyone else there), is that it is VERY different from what science, or matrix energetics, or religion, or whoever teaches. From my direct experience and connection to me, I'm getting the results I WANT, that I never got through any other means, including martial arts and chi and meditation.
Continuing an example along those lines. My parents have beliefs about teeth. Several months ago, my parents sat down and were trying to reinstall their sub-reality about teeth. Without listening to me, without acknowledging my beliefs or "reality", they were attempting a hostile take over, which most humans engage in without being aware of it. My dad at one point said, "Don't your teeth ever just ache or hurt?" My flow put my hand over my mouth and I said, "Nope. They're my teeth." He was psychically projecting a reality where teeth decay and are injured and have no ability or propensity to repair themselves.
I disagreed with their sub-reality. A few days later, my dad was pissed, talking about how his teeth were now hurting. He created an aggressive purposeful thought form, and when I didn't take it or accept it, it had to return to its owner. He has no belief in reality creation or thought space, but I watched him do it. I was aware of him doing it while it was happening, even though he is completely unaware of it.
The reality underneath the sub-realities.
Andrew's Previous Response:
b) To me it comes down to intent. It's not about the actions or the perceived created circumstances. It's about the reason and motivation behind those things. A person can smile and hug me and greet me warmly, to lure me into my death. A person can scream and yell at me, even kick and punch me, to save my life. So, the only "choice" of action, (this is a subtle statement, CHOICE OF ACTION, not choice), the only "choice" of action I have is to connect with me, and follow myself, even if the resulting "actions" and "circumstances" would be labled as wrong or bad or evil by everyone else. I believe, this is what you are calling "letting-go".
I'm not operating from a perspective of... I want this... how do I get this... then I must do this to get this...
Alex's Second Response:
I stuck a, b, and c in there to make my response easier to follow.
b) funny stuff, this past Christmas a family friend who is about my age or so, who I have always been cool with but has recently over the past couple years been a douche to me. (I think he was jealous my girlfriend was so perfect, and I work so very little. He's the type to get any girl, and I just hoodwinked him and got the best one, while doing nothing for it. I suspect this grated at him)
So on Christmas, he was at my Aunt's house, as he is friends with my cousins, and I was saying hi to him. He shook my hand and said something like, "Your hands are so soft, it's probably because you haven't worked in ages".
Intent! Someone could say that to me as a joke or whatever, and I'd laugh with them. But his intent was to put himself up on some lofty awesome level, in front of his girlfriend, who I'd never seen before. for all I know this was to impress her.
So I let-go, and took that right hand (he was commenting on its softness) and slapped him "WACK" in the side of the face. And then I just walked off to talk to my Dad, lol. This was like 15 minutes before Christmas dinner. Hehe. I don't advocate violence, in general, but some people apparently only relate to macho-ness.
I saw him this past weekend, and it was all good, lol. It seems to have worked :) Letting-go for the win again!
Andrew's Current Response:
You gave him what he was demanding. All violence begins with a demand. The demander is violent. He was demanding you submit. You said NO in a language he could understand from his current perspective. Some demanders (violent beings) can only hear you when you kill them.
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Alex's Second Response:
ReplyDeleteI agree, it is a sub-reality. But one I am definitely within. :) And I believe it is one that is serving my fullest expression/purpose. Somehow my Bigger Me is using this as a way of making it tangible that I don't have to hold on "for dear life", and to do that it needs to make me aware of others, so that I can let-go of myself that little bit more. And in letting-go of myself, more, find myself more :)
Regarding the second part, yes, I agree it could be very tricky ascertaining the levels of harm done. But taken in a very rough way, clearly if humans consciously avoided harming 90% of what gets harmed at this time in human history, it would be noticed! It isn't so much avoiding harm, but the implications behind it, that we are connected.
This is a counter-thought for me from my Bigger Being: I was previously operating in a very me first way. I still am, but my concept of me is different, now. I assume my Bigger Me is giving me this exploration for my own purposeful unfolding.
Andrew's Current Response:
a) I agree that we are in a sub-reality. There ARE sub-realities within sub-realities within sub-realities within sub-realities. My, all of me, is wanting to understand these sub-realities and be VERY AWARE of them so that I can deliberately and consciously make meaningful decisions about the ones I WANT to participate within, and free myself from any that I have inadvertently become a slave to.
b) For example, what I know about how MY body works (not including anyone else there), is that it is VERY different from what science, or matrix energetics, or religion, or whoever teaches. From my direct experience and connection to me, I'm getting the results I WANT, that I never got through any other means, including martial arts and chi and meditation.
c) Continuing an example along those lines. My parents have beliefs about teeth. Several months ago, my parents sat down and were trying to reinstall their sub-reality about teeth. Without listening to me, without acknowledging my beliefs or "reality", they were attempting a hostile take over, which most humans engage in without being aware of it. My dad at one point said, "Don't your teeth ever just ache or hurt?" My flow put my hand over my mouth and I said, "Nope. They're my teeth." He was psychically projecting a reality where teeth decay and are injured and have no ability or propensity to repair themselves.
I disagreed with their sub-reality. A few days later, my dad was pissed, talking about how his teeth were now hurting. He created an aggressive purposeful thought form, and when I didn't take it or accept it, it had to return to its owner. He has no belief in reality creation or thought space, but I watched him do it. I was aware of him doing it while it was happening, even though he is completely unaware of it.
The reality underneath the sub-realities.
Alex's Third Response:
a) That is a noble calling. My All Of Me, also is called by this desire for awareness.
b) Interestingly, if I stop doing some of the chi/martial arts things I do, my All Of Me, always ends up having me go back. So now I don't stop :) I get a ton out of it anyway. Even if there was no purported benefit to the art of Shaolin Cosmos Chi-kung, it just feels so good.
Actually our chi-kung and Shaolin Kungfu contains within it the concept of flow. For example, when choosing which pattern to practice some students "let the chi" decide. Or, there is a level of practice to the kung-fu called the "mind" level (after form level, and energy/chi level), where the student directs the mind and the mind directs the body and energy. In the chi-kung the practitioner let's the chi (energy) flow direct them. I find all of this very fulfilling, and yet I am aware that it is a sub-reality, actually I embrace that fact and take it on fully. It is a very joyful sub-reality and one that brings good result, as opposed to many sub-realities that just suck you in and chew you up, like the teeth example from part C... By result I mean, person A + sub-reality B = result C... No effort involved, just simple consciousness arithmetic.
I am also getting the results I want, like you! Fascinating. I am always interested in hearing more about your experiences with sub-realities and experiences that may not fit into the norm. Those are the ones that expand our perceptions of what *IS*, and therefore what could be for me, or you, that we may have not been previously aware of.
Oh, I would like to share a story my teacher has talked about. It is of my teacher's teacher. Sigung Ho Fatt Nam was among other things a master of Taoist magic. He had taught my teacher's fellow student this art of Taoist magic, and he was demonstrating it for everyone in the class in a ceremony of sorts where he lopped at his leg with a large sword sharp enough to cut very very badly. Normally the sword would bounce off when he would strike his leg, but this time he was not so fortunate. He had had sex with his girlfriend the night before, who was on her period. The Taoists (apparently) believe the woman's blood to be "dirty", and the Taoist gods that interacted with the magician and supported the magic, "didn't come" so to speak. He lopped his leg down to the bone and blood was spewing everywhere. My teacher suspected he'd die if his teacher Ho Fatt Nam hadn't done what he did next. He quickly took a piece of paper, and wrote some Taoist symbols on it in "air pen", maybe said some words over it too, I forget that detail. Then he put this piece of paper over the cut, maybe said some more words, and the cut stopped bleeding IMMEDIATELY. By the next day his GIANT, GAPING WOUND was totally gone.
Alex's Second Response:
I stuck a, b, and c in there to make my response easier to follow.
b) funny stuff, this past Christmas a family friend who is about my age or so, who I have always been cool with but has recently over the past couple years been a douche to me. (I think he was jealous my girlfriend was so perfect, and I work so very little. He's the type to get any girl, and I just hoodwinked him and got the best one, while doing nothing for it. I suspect this grated at him)
So on Christmas, he was at my Aunt's house, as he is friends with my cousins, and I was saying hi to him. He shook my hand and said something like, "Your hands are so soft, it's probably because you haven't worked in ages".
Intent! Someone could say that to me as a joke or whatever, and I'd laugh with them. But his intent was to put himself up on some lofty awesome level, in front of his girlfriend, who I'd never seen before. for all I know this was to impress her.
So I let-go, and took that right hand (he was commenting on its softness) and slapped him "WACK" in the side of the face. And then I just walked off to talk to my Dad, lol. This was like 15 minutes before Christmas dinner. Hehe. I don't advocate violence, in general, but some people apparently only relate to macho-ness.
I saw him this past weekend, and it was all good, lol. It seems to have worked :) Letting-go for the win again!
Andrew's Current Response:
You gave him what he was demanding. All violence begins with a demand. The demander is violent. He was demanding you submit. You said NO in a language he could understand from his current perspective. Some demanders (violent beings) can only hear you when you kill them.
Alex's Third Response:
Like mosquitoes. =D
On another level this applies to agreements between people. "Please don't say BLANK to me, or please don't do BLANK to me, etc." If that doesn't work, then you yell. If that doesn't work, then you might purposely embarrass them in public. If that doesn't work maybe you leave them to walk home 3 miles in the rain. Etc... It's just simple courtesy, I think :)
Answered here.
ReplyDeleteWe could turn this conversation into a book. I'd read it.