Here's an interesting thread on The Abe Forum (the official Abraham forum).
Here's a small quote from that post:
So, of course support is appropriate, but only within the specific guidelines of the Abraham Teachings. I truly believe that the best way we support one another is to expect the best, and with the power of influence and by discussing Abraham, uplift one another. In other words, a lot of "yes, I've been there and here's MY sad story..." posts are not the purpose of this forum. We don't want someone who is experiencing something unwanted to come here looking for "kindred spirits" that have gone through the same thing, or people who will offer sympathy ... this is not the "support" we want to see here. Of course, having gone through something similar and USED THE TEACHINGS is a PERFECT example to post!
Abraham only wants you to do what THEY say. They only want you to behave in the APPROVED manner. They do not want you to be yourself. They do not want you to think outside the lines. They want you to be a shining example of the teachings, so that more people will see how great these teachings work and buy more books and go to more seminars, so that the humans running "the show" can make more money, and Abraham can own your pathetic little soul.
The reason you don't see any COUNTER EXAMPLES on their site, is because they DELETE them all, and BAN the people that post them. They REMOVE all evidence that would indicate there is a problem with the teachings. Their followers aren't here to listen to you, to understand you, to help you, to have compassion for you. They're here to keep on smiling and say, "Look you really do have a sad story, and yeah those circumstances are REALLY bad, and I'm sorry there's someone beating you up right now as I'm speaking, but that's ALL YOUR FAULT. Stop focusing on those punches and that abuse, and go dream of rainbows, and everything will be ok."
The OFFICIAL Abraham forum is NOT about being yourself. It's about being a GOOD LITTLE FOLLOWER, and FOLLOWING and OBEYING the RULES, so that certain people can make more money, and certain non-physical entities can gain more control over your mind.
(I wonder how long it will be before they delete or remove the thread I quoted? If the link does not work, you can be assured it was there at one point.)
Tuesday, March 24, 2009
Monday, March 23, 2009
Abraham's Lies - Part 1
Here's a thread on the The Abe Forum (the official Abraham forum).
Now. assuming you read at least the opening post in that thread, and perhaps a few of the responses, it shouldn't take you any time to figure out there's a HUGE contradiction in their message here.
I'll wait while you think.
Ok... you didn't catch it I know, but think about this.
The TITLE of Abraham's most popular original book was "Ask and it is Given", right?
But what is this thread about? It's about, "How do I visualize so I can GET my stuff (faster, quicker, in greater quantities, gift wrapped, delivered by a super model, etc)."
The premise, THE FUCKING TITLE, is, "ASK and it is Given". BUT... it should really be...
Ask, and then visualize, and then work up the emotional scale, and then buy another book, and then come to the seminar, and then only talk pleasingly and upliftingly about Abraham only on The Abe Forum, and then make sure you really believe this stuff, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then... it MIGHT be Given... might be... if you're lucky, and you didn't complain to much, or have a few doubts or negative "episodes" along the way... maybe.
If you ASK to get your stuff, then that should be enough, but it's not, so apparently ASKING isn't really true, but as Abraham has stated on numerous occasions, "It's the best title of any book anywhere." Really? It's the best title, and yet it's in contradiction to your own double speak, fascinating...
There are TWO distinct messages coming through here, double talk. One is, "'Ask", the other is "Vibrate and Attract". These are not the same thing, and yet these answers are switched back and forth like they are.
Which leads us to a million threads all over the internet that have titles like this one... Trusting the Universe... (What if it just keeps NOT happening?)
Then perhaps you should start to really question and think about why you're buying empty promises from people and entities that cannot actually DEMONSTRATE any of the results they actually claim you'll get. Perhaps you should start to question whether they are actually telling the truth or pulling an elaborate control game over on you.
And if that's not enough... look at the forum guidelines... Forum Guidelines
The first line, THE FIRST LINE is: "All members, when they register, agree to abide by the following guidelines, which are set up to ensure that the forum remains a match to the intentions with which it came into being."
So apparently even the official forum of Abraham Hicks can't rely on "the universe" to actually deliver and match the "intentions" they set when they setup the forum. In order for them to get what they want they must force everyone to agree and must actively make their intentions known and must enforce those intentions at every turn. Where's "the universe" come into play here? Where does vibrational attraction come into play? It doesn't, BECAUSE IT'S A LIE.
And more importantly, where does Allowing come into play? Apparently allowing is only for the FOLLOWERS of Abraham Hicks, because FOLLOWERS should allow "the universe" to take forever to deliver, and FOLLOWERS should allow their teachers to contradict their own teachings, and FOLLOWERS should continue to be hopeful, and remain positive, even when the empty promises of Abraham Hicks that they paid dearly for fail to deliver any significant changes.
Whatever. Enjoy being a follower. Enjoy being lied to, at least you know "the universe" will deliver you more lies. At least that part of it works, right?
Now. assuming you read at least the opening post in that thread, and perhaps a few of the responses, it shouldn't take you any time to figure out there's a HUGE contradiction in their message here.
I'll wait while you think.
Ok... you didn't catch it I know, but think about this.
The TITLE of Abraham's most popular original book was "Ask and it is Given", right?
But what is this thread about? It's about, "How do I visualize so I can GET my stuff (faster, quicker, in greater quantities, gift wrapped, delivered by a super model, etc)."
The premise, THE FUCKING TITLE, is, "ASK and it is Given". BUT... it should really be...
Ask, and then visualize, and then work up the emotional scale, and then buy another book, and then come to the seminar, and then only talk pleasingly and upliftingly about Abraham only on The Abe Forum, and then make sure you really believe this stuff, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then... it MIGHT be Given... might be... if you're lucky, and you didn't complain to much, or have a few doubts or negative "episodes" along the way... maybe.
If you ASK to get your stuff, then that should be enough, but it's not, so apparently ASKING isn't really true, but as Abraham has stated on numerous occasions, "It's the best title of any book anywhere." Really? It's the best title, and yet it's in contradiction to your own double speak, fascinating...
There are TWO distinct messages coming through here, double talk. One is, "'Ask", the other is "Vibrate and Attract". These are not the same thing, and yet these answers are switched back and forth like they are.
Which leads us to a million threads all over the internet that have titles like this one... Trusting the Universe... (What if it just keeps NOT happening?)
Then perhaps you should start to really question and think about why you're buying empty promises from people and entities that cannot actually DEMONSTRATE any of the results they actually claim you'll get. Perhaps you should start to question whether they are actually telling the truth or pulling an elaborate control game over on you.
And if that's not enough... look at the forum guidelines... Forum Guidelines
The first line, THE FIRST LINE is: "All members, when they register, agree to abide by the following guidelines, which are set up to ensure that the forum remains a match to the intentions with which it came into being."
So apparently even the official forum of Abraham Hicks can't rely on "the universe" to actually deliver and match the "intentions" they set when they setup the forum. In order for them to get what they want they must force everyone to agree and must actively make their intentions known and must enforce those intentions at every turn. Where's "the universe" come into play here? Where does vibrational attraction come into play? It doesn't, BECAUSE IT'S A LIE.
And more importantly, where does Allowing come into play? Apparently allowing is only for the FOLLOWERS of Abraham Hicks, because FOLLOWERS should allow "the universe" to take forever to deliver, and FOLLOWERS should allow their teachers to contradict their own teachings, and FOLLOWERS should continue to be hopeful, and remain positive, even when the empty promises of Abraham Hicks that they paid dearly for fail to deliver any significant changes.
Whatever. Enjoy being a follower. Enjoy being lied to, at least you know "the universe" will deliver you more lies. At least that part of it works, right?
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